# Zakk Wylde: “Yeah, I Got That Riff at the Tony Iommi Swap Meet”

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After his longest touring break in 20 years, the Black Label Society mastermind 
talks about the evolution of _Doom Crew Inc._—the band’s first-ever studio album
to feature a second guitarist.

There aren’t many characters like Zakk Wylde left in the guitar-scape these days.
The man has been a fixture—not to mention one of the biggest personalities—within
guitar culture since emerging as one of the most respected players of the impossibly
athletic late-’80s scene. Wylde’s accolades, exploits, and influence span decades
now, so chances are if you’re reading a guitar magazine, the animated, self-styled“
Viking” from New Jersey needs no introduction. However, for the uninitiated, Wylde
rode the crazy train from virtual obscurity to practical ubiquity on the distinction
of being the longest-serving guitarist (and frequent songwriting partner) for legendary
metal vocalist Ozzy Osbourne—whom Wylde still reverently refers to as “the Boss.”

The story of Wylde’s ascension to Ozzy’s court is the stuff of rock ’n’ roll fantasy:
At just 19, Wylde delivered an unsolicited, homemade demo tape, and soon he went
from playing the club stages of the local rock circuit to arenas around the globe.
It was the gig of a lifetime pulled from a high-school daydream for Wylde, whose
own guitar lodestar has always been the late Randy Rhoads—the shred icon who shaped
the sound of Osbourne’s first two solo records after leaving Black Sabbath. But 
while Wylde’s playing features no small share of Rhoads-isms, his unique mélange
of swinging riffs, pentatonic flash, signature pinch-harmonic squeals, and a vibrato
as wide as the bell bottom jeans he once favored went on to define the sound of 
the latter half of Osbourne’s career—particularly on touchstone albums like 1988’
s _No Rest for the Wicked_ and 1991’s _No More Tears_.

### Black Label Society — Set You Free (Official Music Video)

As a fully-fledged singer-songwriter in his own right, Wylde has used his band Black
Label Society as the primary outlet for his many talents (including some decidedly
delicate piano chops) since 1998. The quartet has gone through a few lineup changes
over the years, but the latest iteration—Wylde, longtime bassist John DeServio, 
rhythm guitarist Dario Lorina, and drummer Jeff Fabb—has been together going on 
eight years now. The band recently released its 11th studio album, _Doom Crew Inc_.,
and returned to the road after laying low and waiting out the worst of the pandemic.

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“I enjoyed the time home because I’m never home,” Wylde tells_ PG _over the phone
from the confines of the BLS tour bus. “This was the longest I’ve been home in 20
years, and to be home for 18 months and wake up in my bed and be able to hang out
with the family and the dogs in the morning and have coffee—without a doubt I enjoyed
it.” But he’s quick to point out he spent time keeping his chops up at home, too,
particularly by breaking out treasured Ted Greene books, like _Modern Chord Progressions_:
_Jazz & Classical Voicings for Guitar_.

> “The coolest thing about music—or _anything_, really—is the passing of the knowledge
> and the passing of the gift.”

### Hitting the Riff Gym … and Iommi’s “Estate Sale”

But, even while biding pandemic time, hanging with family, and woodshedding, Wylde
kept things brewing for Black Label Society. The group released the _None More Black_
box set in April of 2021, and then, as the perpetually pumped Wylde explains, things
shifted into an entirely different gear when the idea of a new album emerged.

“When it came time to make the next record, I asked my wife [and BLS manager], Barbaranne,
when the guys were coming out to the Black Vatican [Wylde’s home studio], and she
said, ‘In a month.’ I was like, ‘All right, I’ve got a month to write a record.’
It’s like if you’re getting ready for a bodybuilding show—you’ve got 12 weeks to
get dialed-in and start watching your diet and get as ripped as you can. I knew 
I had a month, so every day I would go out there with my practice amp, with the 
reverb set up so it sounds like I’m at Madison Square Garden, and start writing 
riffs.”

![Black Label Society](https://www.premierguitar.com/media-library/black-label-society.jpg?
id=28303659&width=591&quality=80)

Black Label Society (left to right): John DeServio, Jeff Fabb, Zakk Wylde, and Dario
Lorina. Photo by Jen Rosenstein

And, indeed, _Doom Crew Inc._ finds Wylde and his BLS cohorts in competition form.“
Every time I make a record, it feels like the first time, because you don’t know
what you’re going to get at the end,” Wylde says. “I still have a blast doing it
because of that.” Built on a foundation of chugging, churning, swinging riffs like
those that have been the band’s bedrock since day one, _Doom Crew _showcases Wylde’s
uncanny ability to draw fresh water from the well of inspiration that is Black Sabbath’s
first four records. Asked what it is about those LPs that keeps him so inspired 
after all these years, Wylde emits a barbarian laugh. **“**Tony Iommi is at the 
top of my list of influences—just as a songwriter! I laugh because, whether it’s‘
Gospel of Lies’ or ‘Destroy & Conquer,’ it’s like, ‘Yeah, I got that riff at the
Tony Iommi swap meet … behind a toaster at the Lord Iommi garage sale!’” Of course,
ultimately, it’s Wylde’s personality as a songwriter and his touch as a player that
define the songs. Sabbath’s influence will always be a major ingredient in Black
Label Society’s sonic stew, but it’s never going to be seasoned quite the same way
twice.

  Эрик Клэптон (Eric Clapton) – Держусь блюзовых корней

### Black Label Society’s «Set You Free» Riff Rundown

While the songwriting on _Doom Crew Inc._ is classic Wylde fare, it’s the first 
BLS record to feature a second guitarist. Wylde and longtime road sparring partner
Lorina go toe-to-toe on several of the album’s incendiary solo sections, trading
licks and, at long last, bringing the counterpoint drama of the band’s live shows
to a studio album.

![](https://www.premierguitar.com/media-library/image.jpg?id=28236611&width=591&
quality=80)

TIDBIT: Doom Crew Inc. is the first Black Label Society album to feature a second
guitarist alongside Zakk Wylde.

“It was a natural evolution,” Wylde explains. “On the older songs, like ‘Stillborn’
or ‘Suicide Messiah,’ we’d double certain parts together live, so I decided to add
Dario in and have more fun at the party! We always extend the solo in ‘Fire It Up’
live, and that’s become the big guitar solo of the night—we go back and forth like
dueling banjos and it’s _always_ a good time. When we were doing this album, I was
just like ‘I’m going to extend the solos and we’ll trade off here and here, and 
at the end we’ll come in together and both play _this_ line.’”

![](https://www.premierguitar.com/media-library/image.png?id=28236595&width=591&
coordinates=0%2C340%2C0%2C2&height=745&quality=80)

Wylde tremolo-picks the upper registers on a rare Floyd Rose-equipped Gibson V circa
2010. Photo by Ken Settle

### Wild About Audio Circa-1988

As many guitarists are no doubt aware, over the years Wylde hasn’t been shy about
collaborating with manufacturers on signature gear. At one point he had approximately
15 namesake guitars between the Gibson and Epiphone brands. However, Wylde’s relationship
with Gibson ended years ago, and the iconic 1981 “bull’s-eye” Les Paul Custom he
relied on for so much of his career (he calls it “Grail”) has been retired. What’s
more, Wylde says every guitar and amp used on _Doom Crew Inc._ was made by his very
own Wylde Audio brand, which is distributed by Schecter Guitar Research.

> “Tony Iommi is at the top of my list of influences … it’s like, ‘Yeah, I got that
> riff at the Tony Iommi swap meet … behind a toaster at the Lord Iommi garage sale!’”

Asked whether he still participates in the time-honored pursuit of tone hunting,
the BLS frontman says he essentially found what he was after in 1988. “I have a 
whole bunch of old amps at the [Black] Vatican—old Supros and stuff I’ve collected
over the years that I may want to use for a certain color. But really, I have my
Wylde Audio Master 100 [which is based on a Marshall JCM800 circuit] set up with
the head and the 4×12 cab already dialed in and miked up. So I’m not a tone chaser
in that regard. I’m basically using the same amp head and cabinet setup that I used
for ‘Miracle Man’ on Ozzy’s _No Rest for the Wicked_—EMGs, a Marshall, the whole
nine yards! Why would I want to change it? It already sounds slammin’ and it’s everything
I need!”

  Тони Франклин (Tony Franklin) - Первопроходец безладовой бас-гитары в хард-роке

### Zakk Wylde’s Gear

![](https://www.premierguitar.com/media-library/image.jpg?id=28236586&width=591&
quality=80)

Onstage in 2013, Zakk Wylde works the volume knob on one of his now-discontinued
Gibsons, a signature ZV model. Photo by Ken Settle

Despite his storied reliance on Grail, Wylde doesn’t favor a specific guitar from
the many models whose headstock bears his surname. “The crazy thing is, I’ll play
three to five different guitars a night on tour, and with the VIP package we do,
we give those guitars away at the end of the show. So I could hand you _any_ one
of those guitars and you could make a record with any one of them. The consistency
of the Wylde Audio guitars is that good. They all have a mahogany body, maple neck,
and ebony fretboard, and they all use the same EMG [81 and 85] pickups. You know
when you pick up an electric guitar and play an open G chord, and you can already
tell, unplugged, how it resonates and whether it’s a good instrument or not? These
all do that thing for me. So there wasn’t just one on the record.”

### Rig Rundown — Zakk Wylde

### Always Giving Props

Longtime fans (or anyone who follows Wylde’s Instagram antics) can attest that, 
despite his success, Wylde remains both an impassioned student of guitar and an 
outspoken fan of his heroes. His adoration for Randy Rhoads and Tony Iommi is well
documented, but he also lost a hero with the passing of Edward Van Halen in late
2020. “When I first joined Ozzy, I was 19 years old going, ‘Okay, how do I sound
like Zakk Wylde? You don’t want to be compared to King Edward, so don’t tap and 
don’t use a whammy bar….’ So, I just crossed a bunch of things off the list. I went
out of my way _not_ to sound like Eddie Van Halen, because everyone was trying so
hard to be like him—yet it was still Eddie’s influence changing my playing style!
The coolest thing about music—or _anything_, really—is the passing of the knowledge
and the passing of the gift. What Eddie did was the same thing that Michael Jordan
did in inspiring everyone else in the league to be better. When Ed came out, we 
all had to try that much harder. At the end of the day, that’s the best thing music
does.”

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